Nitro Strength quality please get involved and let us all know down in the comments because pump wise endurance wise mental focus was just in there getting your done and you just have a really good workout a good workout workout experience and it's just an enjoyable pre-workout to train up anything after that so if you workout to 90 minutes or longer it definitely drops you in the ass after that mint is at our 20 buck it really does and it's not it's not a post-workout crash don't get it wrong it's not a post-workout crash it's definitely a slump in energy and really the best way I can describe this to you guys is that the muscle sport Rhino black kind of forces you to train efficiently forces you to like get in there do super sets short rest period get your done within that 60 to 80 minute window because literally you're afraid of when it starts we're off because when it starts to wear off you need you don't want to be in the gym you you want to